Earlier this month Stanford University
Professor Joel Brinkley created a huge uproar with a piece for the Chicago Tribune, titled: "Despite increasing prosperity, Vietnam's appetites remain unique".
In it he basically suggested that Vietnamese are voracious carnivores who have
eaten everything in Vietnam that moves; from wild to domestic animals;
stripping the country bare, and that in so doing this, he explains, the
Vietnamese are somehow more aggressive than their neighbors.
Throughout, his story was full of incorrect
observations, assumptions and analysis. Many readers took great offense to the
article (many seemed particularly sensitive to comments about dog meat) and
accused Brinkley of being racist and unprofessional. I will forgo analysing of his
equally offensive defence of the article, or addressing any particular
detractor. However, I would like to point out how Mr. Brinkley could have
written his article to be more factually correct—although I have no doubt it
would still create an uproar among certain overseas Vietnamese and expats
regardless.
Brinkley begins by asserting that visitors
will not see dogs, rats, birds or squirrels in Vietnam because they have all
been eaten. This is of course blatantly untrue. Most urban areas have serious
sanitation problems in Vietnam and rats are a veritable plague in some places.
Dogs are assuredly popular pets. Indeed however, squirrels and birds are far
less common than they used to be, for the very reason he states (as well as the
pet trade). Many of the bird species that I commonly saw 10 years ago, even in urban
areas, have been completely absent in these places for several years.
Brinkley is correct when he goes on to say
that Vietnam, like its neighbors, has a serious problem in trafficking of large
mammals, although I would differ with him in the idea that most of these tigers,
elephants, bears and rhinos are being trafficked to China—the Vietnamese
themselves consume many of these animals. He is also correct that Vietnamese
have specifically targeted rhinos (for their horns). He didn’t say this, but I
will: that Vietnam has been the primary instigator in a worldwide war on rhinos. Vietnam is directly responsible for poaching of rhino horns in not just
Asia but also Africa.
Brinkley mentions that gibbons in Vietnam
are near extinction because they have been eaten. This is true. Obviously they
are trafficked and eaten (or used in medicine) by a minority of people (it
couldn’t be a majority, since there are so few numbers of gibbons left
due to all the trafficking and habitat destruction anyway). Even in my province
of Binh Thuan, several ethnic minority villages specialize in hunting of what’s
left of the province’s monkeys and gibbons.
Brinkley goes on to say that while the
Vietnamese have consumed all their wildlife, it’s neighbors have left theirs
alone. The truth is a bit more muddy. Vietnam has indeed stripped much of its
own wildlife from the country. Cambodia has too—thanks largely to the turmoil
of the Khmer Rouge years and poverty afterwards. Thailand, Laos and Myanmar do
have a serious problem with wildlife trafficking, however their forests
(particularly those in Laos) are indeed much more pristine than Vietnam’s. In
the case of Laos and Myanmar this may simply come down to a smaller population to land
ratio. In Thailand this may be to the result of a higher level of economic
development and more effective wildlife management by the government.
Brinkley is correct that Vietnam’s culture
originally derived from China, and its neighbors more from India. He is also
correct that Vietnam has had a violent and aggressive history over the long term—Vietnam
spent the last 1000 years not just periodically fighting for independence from China, but
also continuously attacking the southern Kingdom of Champa, until it was
destroyed and eventually conquered by the Vietnamese. However, Brinkley’s
suggestion that Vietnam is somehow more aggressive than it’s neighbors, who all
fought battles of their own, or that this is somehow linked to excessive animal
protein in their diet is nothing more than groundless and silly Vegan
pop-psychology. Meat is common in the national diet of all of these countries,
regardless of romantically ignorant ideas of their religious history and
culture.
Brinkley is correct that dog is a popular
food in Vietnam, and that stray dogs do get quickly grabbed up and sent to
restaurants and markets. I saw this happen every day myself. I also saw a lot of
dogs chopped up in butcher shops in Hanoi and around Sapa on my visits. In fact in
some villages I visited in northern Vietnam, dog meat was more commonly eaten
than beef—even the pho usually contained thit cho. Nonetheless, many people in
Vietnam do keep pet dogs—and don’t eat them either.
Brinkley’s problem was largely a matter of
generalizations. Vietnam does indeed have a serious problem with wildlife
trafficking, but unfortunately he used anecdotes and extremes out of context,
and incorrectly applied them to the whole country. As someone who has spent
nearly a decade living in Vietnam, I can assure you that while many ‘unusual
animals’ are eaten in Vietnam, the vast majority of people normally stick to
things like chicken, duck, beef, pork and seafood… and the occasional frog…
maybe a snake… a bucket of snails once in a while… rarely a turtle… in Mui Ne
lizards are popular… oh, and fried silk worms or crickets are good… porcupines
and bamboo rats do make it on the menu once in a while in rural villages… and
there was that time Anthony Bourdain ate (an illegal) mouse deer in Dalat on international cable tv… but
yes, the vast majority of people stick to chicken, duck, beef, pork and seafood
most of the time.

you are a stupid man like joel, you think you know anything about viet nam culture but not.
ReplyDeleteThanks for your comment, Binh. I'll refrain from posting the less polite one that you left. Where is it you think I've gone wrong?
ReplyDeleteI've seen you post these comments in other places. I'd like to aid you in your quest to set things straight about the rats. Your statements are false. Learn from JB's mistakes; please don't present unresearched assumptions as fact.
ReplyDeleteThere are rat and mice farms in Vietnam. They make the news every once in a while and if you get out of the city, you might run across one. As far as I know, none of them are massive-scale endeavors, but these rodent farms are out there.
Google "rat farm Vietnam" or "field mouse farm Vietnam" and you will find some reports on rat farms.
Here's one to get your started:
http://www.thanhniennews.com/2010/pages/20120721-rats-meant-for-food-drowned-at-illegal-farms-in-vietnam.aspx
Your observation that JB would have gotten much more from his article had he used the truth is spot on. Anybody that knows even a little about Vietnam, knows that there are plenty of annoying, irritating, and/or less-than-pleasant truthful things to write about this (or any other) country. Ten days should have been more than enough time for a seasoned prize-winning journalist to research and write a negative, yet truthful, article to rile up the masses. It makes me wonder what he did during his stay here. He definitely didn't use his time to do the job he was being paid to do.
Adam, a great blog, JB should learn something from your writing, which is the best I have read regarding JB's article on the Chicago Tribune. I eat dog meat once a while with friends in a restaurant near Thi Nghe Bridge in HCMC and I have to admit it helps improving my sex performance. I would not go out to the street and kill a dog though. I never eat squirrel or rat and I don't believe in rhino horn or tiger bone balm healing power.
ReplyDeleteI agree with you that many of us won't give a damn about what JB and you guys think about it.
Have a look at the discussion on LinkedIn, which brought me over here. I notice that you are not a member and we cannot login your blog through LinkedIn, perhaps you can give it as another option:
http://www.linkedin.com/groupItem?view=&gid=1261757&type=member&item=212181971&commentID=119423868&qid=4786344b-9fe6-49c6-b2c2-118d2520ee15&goback=%2Egmp_1261757#commentID_119423868
Hi Eric, thanks for your comments. You aren't the first person to show me that article today, but as you can see, it was an unsuccessful one-off. In fact the idea of a rat farm was so abhorrent to the 'farmer's' neighbors that the government forced him to shut down. Yes, people may claim to farm certain animals, but in Vietnam people also claim to farm tigers and rhinos, as well as a myriad of other animals (in my own Binh Thuan Province lizard, tortoise, monitor and porcupine 'farming' is quite common), but in many of these cases (all I've listed in this response), the animals that are being 'farmed' were all taken from the wild. The farm was nothing more than a holding pen. Any breeding that may have accidentally occurred while they were in custody is despite the efforts of the 'farmers.' Apparently there are rat restaurants in the Mekong--I've never see anything but bamboo rats on menus in central & north Vietnam (bamboo rats are a very different sort of critter than Brinkley or I have discussed). However in most of central & northern Vietnam rats are something people catch themselves or get from a friend and eat at home. Its not generally a market or restaurant item--thus there would be no demand for farming in most areas anyway.
ReplyDeleteThanks Ann! I'm on LinkedIn. I just sent a request to join that group. I'm not sure how linking to blogs works in LinkedIn. Can you just paste a link to this story in the discussion on the site?
ReplyDeleteAdam, since you mention Phan thiet as your old town, have you been to Ta cu lately? When I visited it in 2007, I could see a lot of monkeys jumping from treetops. Your assertion about minority ethnic of Binh thuan hunting monkey and gibbon for food and medicines, do you mean the hilltribe people? And do you have proof of this? Even so, I should remind you that Aborigines in Australia are allowed to hunt and eat native animal including endangered one like turtle and dolphin like animal which I can not remember the correct name for it.
ReplyDeleteYour observation about the lack or disappearance of birds is also flaw. To make such claim, you need proper study. On my recent trip to Vietnam in 2011, I thought that I saw a lot more birds in Dong nai Province than my previous trips. To see something is a proof of its existence. But you can't say that birds are extincted because you don't see it.
Despite these points, I think your article is more informative and balance than that of the so call "Standford Professor of Journalism essay.
Hi Phien Ngung,
ReplyDeleteThanks for your comments. Yes, I've been to Ta Cu Mountain many times and I'm aware there are a few (not many) monkeys there. They come because they can steal some garbage from the restaurant at the pagoda. However, the buddhist monks like to catch them and put them in cages. Whether the monks are just keeping the monkeys for pets themselves, or selling the monkeys for profit, I don't now.
'Hill tribes' is a vague term. Hill tribes are ethnic minorities (usually) but not all ethnic minorities are hill tribes. Even Kinh (ethnic Vietnamese) were once a Chinese hill tribe 1000 years ago. What aborigines do in Australia is irrelevant--my post is describing what actually happens in Vietnam.
One of Joel Brinkley's flaws is that he was making incorrect generalizations about the whole country based on a very quick trip to Vietnam. Forgive me but I think you are doing that with the birds in Dong Nai. It may have just been the time of year you came. For example, in rainy season the birds are much more visible than in dry season--because there is more to eat. I've been living here for most of the last decade--if you read this blog and see the photos, you can see I've put my time in. I'm not making these observations lightly. These are things I've observed myself over a number of years.
Well written, Adam. You know your stuff, and it's highly unlikely any of the individuals offering antagonistic replies have anywhere near as much general knowledge of Vietnam as you do. Knowing the small amount that I do about the Vietnamese education system and the locals' lack of interest in anything beyond their own front door, I'm particularly certain your new friend, Binh, as a probable local, doesn't have a clue.
ReplyDeleteI know you won't be too bothered by them, but all the same, keep telling it like it is.
I'd like to see your piece published by the Chicago Tribune in order to correct the false message Brinkley delivered.
Thanks Stephen!
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